On Thursday’s Mark Levin Show, the debate over the so-called Iran war is not between isolationists and neoconservatives. Instead, it is between isolationists and Jacksonians, the Reaganites and MAGA Trumpites who go in, take care of business and get out without heavy ground commitments or forever wars, and who are not isolationists. President Trump has never been an isolationist. Isolationists have always been the fringe, and a president in a world full of hostile nations cannot be one, because protecting the country is the job’s top priority. The irony is isolationists who claim to be neocons actually sound more like modern Democrats in being Marxists, Islamist and anti-Israel. Also, populism is not conservatism, or constitutionalism or but the heart of Marxism and socialism, because it claims to act in the name of the people even when the people don’t go along. The Constitution rejects populism, which is mobocracy, and that’s why only the House of Representatives is directly elected. America is a republic, not a democracy, so unalienable rights such as property, due process, your home, and your pension belong to you and are never up for a majority vote. Later, Gov Ron DeSantis is Reagan-esque in his beliefs and his approach won the day last Tuesday in Florida, proof that conservative policies work and are popular even against a massive blue wave. Reagan’s foreign policy was not isolationist, and he fought off a horrendous recession inherited from Carter, with interest rates at 21% compared with about 3.4% today, while the media tried to destroy him with images of gas lines and homeless shelters and called him a warmonger. Much of Trump’s foreign policy is peace through strength in the Reagan mold, while the policy urged by J.D. Vance and his allies has never been Republican or conservative but resembles a radical Democrat policy. Finally, Chris Rufo calls in to discuss his new investigation. Renteria Vineyard Management, the company managing Gavin Newsom’s PlumpJack-owned Oso Vineyard in Napa, has a long history of employing illegal immigrants. Newsom kept his stake in PlumpJack, which owns more than 400 acres in Napa, when he became governor, and he and his wife reported at least $11 million in income from 2019 to 2024, mostly from wineries, restaurants and investments. The reporters found no H-2A visa filings by RVM or PlumpJack after 2023, which suggests RVM hires local workers.
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Segment 1
Our friend Victor Davis Hanson has a great column out today. And of course he’s, he’s America’s wise man. That’s what I call him. And he’s certainly that and more. And his column basically says, look, the debate over the so called Iran war is not a debate between isolationists and neoconservatives or neocons. It’s a debate between isolationists and Jacksonians. Andrew Jackson being a great president in the 1820s and he said, much like Reagan, he argues was a Jacksonian, meaning Reagan would go in, take care of business and get out. No heavy duty ground troops, no forever wars, none of that stuff. But he was no isolationist, not even close. And he makes the case. Donald Trump has never been an isolationist. In his first term he took up the leader of isis, he took out other terrorists. He’s never said he’s an isolationist. Donald Trump has also made the point himself, including yesterday, that he didn’t start the war with Iran. Iran started the war with us almost half a century ago. But he’s doing something about it. No country, no government is free to just murder Americans, civilians, military personnel, or try to assassinate them, period. Is that so radical America, Is that what he meant by no more wars? No, I don’t think so. I don’t think so at all. So really the fringe, the extremists, are those who are isolationists and they’ve always been the fringe throughout our history. I mean, you can’t be a country, one of 190 some countries, so many of which are evil, so many of which seek to, if not destroy us, harm us in very significant ways, and be an isolationist. You can’t be President of the United States. Maybe you can head a radical group like the Quincy Institute, or maybe he can be a vice president. You know, vice presidents just don’t do that much. Maybe he can be a senator and be a libertarian like Iran Paul. Or maybe he can be a reprobate like Thomas Massey. Or maybe he can be an anti Semite, an American hating Russian bot like Tucker Carlson. I mean, the list goes on. But you can’t be a president who has to protect the United States. That is the number one job of the President of the United States to protect us. All the rest of it is in tier two. Protecting us is tier one. And so Victor Davis Hanson makes a point, quite frankly, that I’ve made As well. The neocons, neoconservatives. These were Democrats, old Democrats at this point, most of whom don’t exist anymore, who had supported people like Hubert Humphrey or Scoop Jackson or Patrick Moynihan and so forth. Some of them went back to Franklin Roosevelt, but they were turned off by the Democrat Party because it became too liberal. If you can believe that today it’s Communist, Marxist and Islamists. They’d be losing their minds, but you get it. And they were welcomed into the Reagan administration. One of them was Dick Carlson, Tucker Carlson’s father, who would be ashamed of his son today, no question about it. He was a big supporter of America’s superpower, America projecting power overseas. He was a big supporter of the state of Israel. Strong Jean Kirkpatrick, such a tremendous individual. She was a Democrat. Neither of them were Jewish, by the way, but a lot of them were Jewish. They left the Democrat Party and so they were called neo conservatives, not traditional conservatives, not constitute neo conservatives. And they were superb. Now they had children like Bill Kristol, but you can’t control what happens to somebody like a, Bill Kristol. Bill Kristol turned into a lefty and a Democrat, but he’s not a neocon. He’s a lefty and a Democrat. And yet he had a magazine called the Weekly Standard and he had a number of writers at that magazine, including somebody named Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson was the son of a neocon. Tucker Carlson was a very strange person, sort of a mixed ideological pundit of sorts. But now he’s completely off his rocker. He’s obviously a, ah, mentally unhealthy in my humble opinion, but that’s beside the point. And so Victor Davis Hanson goes further. He says, so this is not a battle between isolationists and neocons. This is a battle between isolationists and Jacksonians and Reaganites and Maga Trumpites. And yet the isolationists keep using the word neocon. Why do they do that? Why does Shaun Davis that the Federalists keep saying neocons? Why does Tucker Carlson keep saying neocons? Why does me, again, Kelly, keep saying neocons? Why does Third Reich Bannon keep saying neocons? Why does Pedo no Pants Gates keep saying neocons? And he made the point as I’ve made some time ago to you, because they use it as a pejorative. They use it as a, well, as a curse word for Jews. So rather than saying the Jews this, the Jews that, and you choose this and you choose that. They say you neocons, you neo cons you neocons, you neoconstruction when they mean Jews. And this is what Victor Davis Hanson writes. And he’s correct and I’m correct. You know, Victor Davis Hanson over the years has written quite extensively about this topic of anti Semitism. He did at National Review Online some time ago I quoted him in the Democrat Party Hates America. When I wrote that book the Democrat Party Hates America, I was thinking of the growing Islamist influence in the Democrat Party, Chris Van Hollen, their history. It didn’t even occur to me to bring up what has become this woke Reich. And don’t you think it’s interesting that they’ve coalesced around the Vice President of the United States who they demand that you support for President of the United States? Don’t you think that’s interesting, even odd? They reject the President’s position on Iran and you can quibble with it here and there, but they reject the fact that he acted at all and to defend the VP who wouldn’t have acted at all, period. It’s very strange. I’ll be right back.
Segment 2
Hello, America. Welcome back. May I say, I think I just heard Robert Garcia, is a hemorrhotic. He likes to announce that he’s gay, that he’s an immigrant, but he’s a hemorrhotic, meaning a human hemorrhoid. A hemorrhoid. A hemorrhotic. In fact, I think he’s the rare breed. I think he’s a bleeding hemorrhotic probably. And ah, I believe he has screwed up this investigation for reasons I’ll explain at length on Saturday on Life Liberty and Levin and I’ve touched on here as well. Let’s hear what the hemorrhotic has to say to Caitlin Collins, who is a pretend journalist. Cut one go. If you issue a subpoena and Todd Blanche, the Attorney General Will Sharp, the White House Counsel, says you don’t need to respond to this and they defy it. What are you going to do? Well, why don’t you ask the actual question, which is if you issue a subpoena because your purpose is to conduct a criminal investigation, it’s not about defying it and they reject it or challenge it, then what are you going to do? But look how she. She places the onus on the administration for defying it. But what if the subpoena isn’t legitimate in the first. I just I don’t know what to make of this. I don’t know if she has a low I. Idiot. I don’t know if she’s trying to press her social circles. All seven people, or. I don’t know, she’s an ideologue. Well, what is it? It could be any of those three. Go ahead. Has to flex all of its power. As you know, when you’re in the majority, we have the power to sue on behalf of the House. We have the power to, go look at contempt, whether not just, criminal contempt, but also civil contempt. And so that’s a process that goes through the courts, not the doj. And we also have to continue to organize. You have to continue to get the American public on our side. And the results on Tuesday made it really clear. When you ask people across the country. No, no, no, no, no, it’s not correct. Robert. Is your name Robert? Robbie. What do you go by? but affordability, I thought was the issue. I thought it was affordability. Now all of a sudden, it’s investigations. is that right, America? Go ahead, Come in California, when you ask people across the country why they were motivated to vote and to bring change, they said the same two things. It was about affordability, and it was about rooting out government corruption. Well, we have a mandate, but your job is to conduct hearings to oversee potential areas of legislation. It’s up to the executive branch to actually root out criminal behavior and that sort of stuff. It’s not up to you. Did you take an oath to uphold the Constitution? If so, did you read the Constitution? I’m just curious. Go ahead, Robbie. Option and certainly the corruption of the Trump family, but what if the White House says, we don’t care about your mandate, they ignore you. We’re going to do everything we can to go through the courts and use the courts and use the contempt process to ensure that we actually get a response from, our. From what we’re asking for. So you’re going to hold people in contempt. And of course, that is to go to the courts. So what’s going to have to happen is this is going to have to be litigated in one or two or three or ten instances and work its way all the way up to the Supreme Court. And win, lose, or draw, that’s the way it’s going to have to be handled. Because the goal here is to cripple the executive branch. Whoever’s done what, maybe somebody did something wrong, maybe somebody didn’t. Maybe it’s a close call. Maybe there’s no call. Whatever it is, the. The breadth of what they’re doing, CEOs of companies, law firms, and lawyers at law firms Donors who donated money altruistically, earnestly, to build the East Room and so forth. This is a real shakedown operation. It’s a thug operation. And it is intended to intimidate and threaten people who’ve done nothing. Nothing. Some people may have done something, but the people I’m talking about have done nothing. And so that’s the effort here. It has nothing to do with legislation or legislative oversight. Now, they will claim it does. They will, you know, they will dress it up as something legitimate and so forth, because that’s what they do. But it’s not. No, go ahead. Questions answered. That’s it. We want our questions answered. That’s all. That’s not all. This is the guy that said lawyer up. Now, ladies and gentlemen, if they were conducting oversight hearings for the purpose of developing potential legislation, they wouldn’t be saying lawyer up, would they? Mr. Producer? Lawyer up. Even though it’s only two words, it has a meaning. And lawyer up means you may have a criminal issue on your hands. And so what they’re really doing is conducting a criminal investigation. They are not conducting a legislative oversight hearing. And for reasons I’ve explained here, for reasons I explained online, for reasons I will explain in exquisite detail Saturday, my opening statement. To further underscore it, Congress doesn’t have the power to do that. I don’t care what any court rules. I’m telling you what the Constitution is all about. I can read the Constitution as well as anybody else, and I’ll even have a black robe. Mr. Producer, excuse me, Cholera, but you folks get the point. And he seems to think, just because he makes a demand, that everybody has to genuflect and sort of his, agenda. Here is a guy named Richard Hoeda. There’s a lot of names here that are foreign names, foreign to me. I can’t pronounce them. Many of these people are children of first, generation immigrants and so forth, and they really attack this country relentlessly. Cut four. Go. I wouldn’t vote to impeach this entire administration, but when it comes to Donald Trump. No, if we impeach Donald Trump, we martyr him. We need to investigate him first, thoroughly, and show the American people. Imagine if you could tune in every night from 6 to 8, and the first part is the classified documents. Number two, January 6th. Number three, the Epstein files. But you know what? If we show these people the evidence, some of them are going to finally wake up. Now, is that, Is that a legislative purpose? Of course not. Richard Oheeda, sleazeball, scumbag. Be right back.
Segment 3
Here we have Al Green. Remember Al green, the singer? Mr. Producer. Great singer. But then we have Al Green. The congressman soon to not be has the IQ of a. Well, of a tangerine. He rises today, he tells us to impeach Donald Trump in the sky. This guy is a sick walking head injury. Cut five, go. I rise today to give notice that as early as next week, I will call for a vote to impeach Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America. Mr. Speaker, I do not take this lightly. Yes, you do. It is something that I’ve given much thought to. I think he does it with every Republican president, doesn’t he, Rick? but he’s about to leave. He’s about to leave. Go ahead. Follow through with. I’m proud to tell you that I did send the president a letter immediately after last night’s vote to impeach Secretary Hexag. Wow, you’re busy. I sent him the letter because I wanted him to get a sense of how I feel about some of the things that he has done that are unconstitutional. nobody cares what you have to say. Just saying, you’ve been lost in your Democrat primary. I’m sorry, but get lost. Get out of my country. Get lost. Speaking of which, we have Abdul, El Said, the senator, soon to be from Michigan. I want to thank all the Democrats and others who voted for this terrorist supporting piece of crap. That’s right. So how is he going to get sworn in? NPR wants to know. Cut six, Go. I will, likely swear on a Quran. which Quran? We’re not sure. I mean, Thomas Jefferson had a copy of the Quran. So, when Keith Ellison. Okay, Thomas Jefferson had a copy. what does that have to do with anything? Rich? I have a book on Sharia law in my office that I’ve been going through. So what. They try to just. Thomas Jefferson had a Gabatikaratna. Thomas Jefferson also sent our nascent Navy to Tripoli to destroy the Somali pirates, the Muslims who were enslaving Americans. What does that have to do with anything? Go ahead to Congress. He swore in on, that copy. There’s also, the first. The University of Michigan, holds the first Quran in the state of Michigan. What does he say? M. so apparently it’s a very involved choice he’s making here. Go ahead. and that might be the choice. So I don’t know, but I’ll swear in Quran. There you go. What else did he have to say today? Because it’s so important. As you well know. He’s on the National Pubic Radio. He’s been on the Constipated News Network. He’s very, very busy. Cut seven, Go. And so you know, Abd al Rahman Mohammed Said is as American as Mike Rogers. It’s as American as Donald Trump. It’s as American as whatever JD stands for. It is an American name. I am 100% American. And Abdurrahman. But you’re a 100% American hater. Get my m. Drift, get my drift? You hate the country. No, no, actually, I love it. And I’m going to swear it on the. No, no. You hate the country. That’s clear. By the way, what does JD stand for? Can you check that out, Mr. Producer? That’s an. What is it? That’s an interesting point. I don’t know. John David or something or, What? What is it? James David. I was very close. James David. Okay, James David Vance. JD Vance and, El. Say, will be, sworn in on a Quran. okay, that’s fine, whatever. We don’t know which one yet. Apparently is a big decision. We don’t know which one yet. Boy, oh, boy. Then we have reelect, excuse me, Representative elect, Chris Raab. This guy is a complete head job. But aren’t they all out of North Philadelphia? And now I, know North Philadelphia well. The law school I attended, Temple, is in North Philadelphia on Broad street. And it is the most Democrat district in the country. Mr. Producer, I don’t think there’s a Republican alive in that district. And if there was a Republican there, he or she wouldn’t be alive. You get my drift? But I think literally, it’s the most Democrat district in the country. North Philadelphia. And, he’s a DSA member. Of course. He’s a commie. Full fledged commie. He served in the state legislature. And so, Major Garrett. You know, Major Garrett. I remember when he used to write for, I think, the Washington Times. He used to be on Fox. Here’s my question about Major Garrett. How come he’s never gotten a promotion at General Garrett? Can you tell me that, Mr. Producer? Cat 9, go. Can you define bold change? Well, I think, we’re figuring that out, right, because everyone has their opinions. But if you look at the polling and you look at the people who won, not just in aggressively blue districts like mine, the, bluest in America, the bluest in America. Not like I’m counting. We got more raccoons than Republicans in my district. But I’m also talking to folks who flipped our 20 districts, like folks who are coming from Trump country. And we have a lot of the same things we’re fighting for, whether it’s affordable health care, bringing down the cost of groceries and gas, ending the war in Iran, addressing, corruption. Like those things transcend ideology. No one’s talking about socialism at the doors. This is a populist movement. And this populism is about economic change. What are the things that are going to materially. Let me tell you something that may shock you. He’s right about that. And I’ve warned you about this, that this word populism, this word populism, it’s not conservatism, it’s not constitutionalism, it’s not small R Republicanism. Populism is the heart and soul of Marxism, socialism. Because they claim to do whatever they do in the name of the people, even if the people don’t go along. And your Constitution rejects populism. There is only one body that is directly elected, the House of Representatives. That’s because they feared populism. Populism is mobocracy. Mobocracy. You don’t want a majority vote on your property rights, do you? You don’t want a majority vote on your due process rights, do you? You don’t want a majority vote on things that are unalienable, rights that belong to you. Correct? Correct. These are your rights as a child of God, not as somebody who’s in a democracy where everybody gets to vote on their rights back and forth. No, that would be a complete disaster. Can you imagine if our rights were on the ballot last week? And so you hear these fools talk about populism, you hear Third Reich bannon. That guy’s probably had more pardons than anybody I’ve ever heard of. Well, maybe just one. But then again, he confessed to fraud. But look, his, defective character aside, he talks about populism. Populism, populism. They talk about populism and nationalism. Populism is mobocracy. We’re not a democracy. We’re a republic for a reason. The Constitution creates a republic, not a democracy, not a mob ocracy. Your home belongs to you. Nobody gets to vote on it. Your bank account, your pension belongs to you. Nobody gets to vote on your health care should belong to you, and nobody should be able to vote on it. But they’re destroying it. They’re going to destroy your Health care. They have sworn by it. They want to control everybody’s access to health care. That’s what that’s about. It’s, a power move because we know it doesn’t work. It simply doesn’t work. And then nationalism, as we’ve talked about before. What about Americanism, not nationalism. What does nationalism mean? Nationalism is not just sovereignty, as some nudnik pseudo philosophers would have you believe. It’s beyond that. Now, we believe in federalism. Your tenth Amendment state authority that is shared with the federal government, that’s federalism. But nationalism tends to be authoritarianism. So it’s the two. It’s the two swords of, fascism, populism and Marxism. Populism and nationalism. Now, fascism embraces nationalism, authoritarianism, Marxism does not. It embraces internationalism. Not from any. I’m not talking about trade and so forth. I’m talking from an ideological perspective. So when, people. I’m a populist. It’s a schmuck. I’m a nationalist, another schmuck. Well, that means America first. No, it doesn’t. If you understand what America is and what America means, you’re not a nationalist. You believe in Americanism, and you’re not a populist mob ocracy. You believe in republicanism. Small R. Republicanism. It is the American republic, not the populist nationalist country. And that’s what’s wrong with these phony woke. Right morons. I’ll, be right back.
Segment 4
So those of you who listen to this program, you understand the construct of our. Of our government, of our constitution. And you hear people throw around the word democracy. Little D. Democracy. Or when you people throw. Hear people throw around the word populism. Oh, what’s popular? Excuse me? You have unalienable rights. It doesn’t matter whether they’re popular. Not popular. Nobody gets to make those determinations. God has already made those determinations. That’s why they’re called unalienable rights. They’re not given to you by people. They can’t be taken to you legitimately by people. Okay, so that’s the populism, mobocracy side of things. The nationalism. We have a group out there desperately trying to create an ideology. Natcon. Oh, very clever. Natcon. National conservatism. That’s right. One guy wrote a quasi book on it. Kind of a hat book. Oh, yeah, Absolutely not. Brilliant. And comes down to this. America first. Excuse me, we’re talking about Americanism. No, no, no. Nationalism also means American sovereignty. Well, it means a lot more than that. Nationalism Means more than American sovereignty. It means more than America First. There’s a reason why all these fascist movements from 100 years ago and forward were called nationalist movements. They’re authoritarian movements. It’s more authoritarianism than Americanism, that’s for sure. Why can’t we stick with Americanism and constitutionalism and a little our Republicanism? Hmm? And we should, because we’re not populists. We’re not nationalists. You believe in state authority? Certainly from time to time, right? Well, that’s not nationalism. Do you believe that there’s a circle of liberty around you that cannot be penetrated, where you shouldn’t be molested by the government? That’s right. Well, that’s not nationalism. And what about those rights? Where do they come from? It’s not populism. It’s not the mob. Right? They’re unalienable. They’re unalienable rights. Very important to understand the Declaration, its connection to the Constitution and the sloganeers out there who are misleading you, who are lying to you. Many of them are just quite stupid. Like Jack Posbiec or whatever his name is. He’s definitely a head injury patient of some kind. I don’t know what his problem is, but he’s got one, and it’s a big one. He’s a hemorrhotic. It’s a hemorrhotic. But he’s not alone. There’s a lot of hemorrhotics here. I don’t know why. Tp USA platforms, this guy. Or friends at Human events. I don’t know why. It’s time. It’s time that he actually take on a job that’s more representative of what he does. Mr. Bedou. So you know, like being the speechwriter for the Klan or something. Just my opinion. Just my opinion. Yeah. Malat kiros. Did you know there’s a Malat Kiros? That he’s a elected member Democrat of Colorado. What is it? Oh, it’s a she. Well, excuse me. Are there such things as she’s. I don’t know. Cut eight. Go. We have demands. We have demands on behalf of the American people. Shut up, idiot. You don’t represent the American people. You represent one congressional district and barely. This is a woman that was such a lousy lawyer. Such a lousy lawyer. Nobody wanted her. Couldn’t even be a respectable slip and fall lawyer. Couldn’t be a respectable ambulance chaser. She’s got the IQ of a, Pistachio nut. That’s right. But don’t worry. She can run the world. Great commie. Dsa. You know what? Ass.







