On Thursday’s Mark Levin Show, the Iran deal reportedly offers immediate release of billions in frozen funds, discussions on sanctions relief, and humanitarian aid in exchange for Iran reopening the Strait of Hormuz and forswearing nuclear weapons development for 60 days. This agreement provides a massive financial infusion to the regime—funding the IRGC and police state—without addressing ballistic missiles or the regime’s brutality against its people. Why is economic and military pressure being lifted before securing firm concessions? Our negotiators must understand what happens if this isn’t locked down tight. Even more, they need to be straightforward in their advice to the President that a deal may be the worst way to attempt to end the war. If the regime survives, it will become even stronger over time, and the threat to our country and Israel will be hard to overstate. The callers have made clear they want the Iranian regime destroyed and no deal. The audience is very smart about the Iranian regime and the ramifications if it is not defeated — political, military, and future ramifications. Later, Erica Kirk, still grieving the assassination of her wonderful husband less than a year ago, continues to face torment. Jocko Wensk was arrested after making multiple terroristic threats, including plans to bomb a Turning Point USA Women’s Leadership Summit in San Antonio. Afterward, soaring interest costs on the national debt are sparking warnings of a potential debt spiral from center-left economists and policy experts. Despite the left typically downplaying the issue, this long-term problem—driven by out-of-control debt, unfunded obligations, and lack of political will to cut spending—risks a domino effect of rising interest rates, higher inflation, destruction of paper money’s value, and collapse of the nation’s fiscal house. Finally, Steve Deace calls in to discuss his new children’s book – Why Independence Day?: America Is Great Because God Is Good.
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Rough transcription of Hour 1
Segment 1
Hello, America. Mark Levin here. Our number 877-381-3811. 877-381-3811. I don’t know why, Mr. Producer, I’m in a great mood. I don’t know why. If we get that way, Rich. Sometimes you’re on a download, you’re not sure why, sometimes you’re anxious. You’re not sure I’m in a great mood. And yet. I’m very concerned. And I’ll tell you what I’m concerned about America. I feel like we don’t know what victory is anymore. Absolute victory. You were a thousand reasons for why we can achieve a victory, whatever the conflict is. Thousand reasons. And yet there was a time when you went to war. You had a battle. Victory was the objective. I don’t mean a soft victory. I mean, a real victory. And so there’s a leak to Axios, which is a left wing Web site, and a guy by the name Barack Ravid, who is a radical left winger, used to write for Haaretz, which is as close to a communist media outlet as exists in the state of Israel. And he’s another self-hating Jew, in my humble opinion. And somebody keeps leaking to him. About our diplomacy, about our decisions, about what the I don’t know. Presidents don’t interviews with him, too. His advisers are advising him poorly, should interview with that nut job. Nonetheless, there it was, an Axios. It was picked up by other media outlets, of course. And what is it? Well, here’s an example of what it is. It’s. A purported deal. Initial deal, the Islamo Nazi regime in Tehran. In Tehran now. I only go by what’s reported, and it’s reported everywhere. If they’re wrong, then somebody needs to come out and correct it. In my humble opinion. And what they’re saying is, well, I’ll quote it to you. I posted this several hours ago when it came out. I don’t blame the president for taking a few days to think about this. That is the initial deal with the Iranian regime his negotiators brought to him. I understand why the Iranian regime agreed to this. According to the reports, quote, In return for the commitments to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and foreswear nuclear weapons development. The U.S. would release frozen Iranian funds and open discussions about sanctions relief, as well as enter discussions on mechanisms to permit Iran to receive humanitarian aid and other needed goods, quote, unquote. That’s from a senior official anonymously leaking. The Axios, as well as other reports and news platforms, picking it up and regurgitating it. So frozen funds, according to this, are immediately released. That’s billions and billions of dollars. Sanctions relief are on the horizon. Assess, quote unquote, humanitarian aid to a regime that slaughters its own people. That’s a huge infusion of billions of dollars into Iran, in addition to the regime returning to shipping oil, all of which will fund the IRGC and the rest of the police state. And you can be sure that’s where most of the money will go. And no word about ballistic missiles, which is absolutely crucial. The Iranian regime wanted to complete the production of 8 to 10000 ballistic missiles which could overwhelm. Overwhelm Israel, overwhelm the Arab states, overwhelm us. We simply do not have the kind of weaponry needed to knock all that out of the sky. And these ballistic missiles can destroy an entire. City block. Now. That’s a huge infusion of billions into Iran, in addition to the regime returning to shipping oil, all of which will fund the IRGC, as I said. And again, nothing about ballistic missiles. Nothing about the brutality against the people which started this. Not a word. There needs to be a lot more details to understand exactly what has been negotiated here to warrant a massive infusion of funds back into the regime in exchange for. Talking another 60 days. They won’t pursue nukes in the meantime. I thought we were going to hit them militarily if they did. And they’ll reopen the strait. So the regime closing, it was leveraged by them to get us to negotiate with them. We’re removing economic and military pressure with only the threat that either or both could resume. Why not force concessions before lifting economic pressure? If they wouldn’t agree to that. And how serious is the regime about making substantive and lasting concessions at all? The article says the president’s taking a few days to think about it. I don’t blame him. If this report is accurate, he should. And what about enforcement? Given the nature and history of this terror regime, whatever the final terms may be. It’ll be impossible. Certainly after Trump leaves the presidency a bit, saying that now for weeks, I notice other writers and so forth have been plagiarizing, but that’s okay. This is important enough. I like them to plagiarize. Yes, I do. Over at the Gates Stone Institute, one of my favorites of all. Khalid Abu Tamir. A man of Arab descent. Says there can be no good deal with the jihadist regime that openly sponsors terrorism across the Middle East, brutalizes its own people, calls for the destruction of Israel, and continues to chant death to America. Tehran sees diplomacy as a tactical weapon, a means to buy time, get intrusive foreign governments off their back, weaken international opposition, divide Western allies and secure economic relief, all while continuing its long term strategy objectives as fast as the circumstances. After President Trump’s term in office will allow. I’m very curious what you think. So we’re going to open the phones again. Again, I don’t do it often, although in the last few weeks I have. I’m opening the phones again. I want to know what you folks think about this. 8773813811. Even if any new agreement does not contain the sunset clauses allowing the Iranian regime eventually to resume advanced uranium enrichment activities legally, if the restrictions expire, the Iranian regime will view any deal as a green light quietly to continue rebuilding its nuclear weapons program. Such provisions do not eliminate the nuclear threat. They postpone them. Already. Iran is reportedly. Restarted much of its ballistic missile production that could restore significant portions of its offensive drone capabilities within months. Folks, we need to understand this ballistic threat. It’s their most powerful conventional weapon. And if they unleash a thousand, 2000, 5000 at a time, it will destroy. Any country in the Middle East. Significantly the response from the Arab and Muslim world to Trump’s latest demand to join the Abraham Accords has been largely unenthusiastic. Shows you what they are and where they stand. Saudi Arabia and Qatar show no public eagerness to comply. Pakistan flatly rejected the idea, of course. Their silence and rejection underscore a larger reality, meaning meaningful peace and agreements cannot be manufactured for public relations purposes are used to obscure strategic failures elsewhere. Worse, many of the supposedly neutral Middle Eastern countries facilitating the deal, quote unquote, Pakistan, Turkey, which is a disaster, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and well-worn records of not being even slightly neutral. Not even slightly neutral. We know that expanding peace agreements between Israel and Arab and Muslim countries, so unquestionably a positive, good peace and normalization are in the interests of Arabs and Muslims, no less than Israelis. The Arab Accords demonstrated that cooperation with Israel promotes regional stability, security, economic growth, technological advancement. Genuine peace, however, may not be able to be imposed through pressure or threats. Peace made at a gunpoint rarely lasts. And he goes on. Very concerned about what he’s reading and hearing. Yeah. Then we have one of my favorite editorials. CITES issues and insights. Issues and insights. Mr. President, they’re right. Give the Iranian regime nothing. President Trump is considering handing over billions to the terrorists of Tehran and leaving them in control of the Strait of Hormuz. As some news dispatches have indicated, he will have committed a blunder. The only choice they should be offered is to give up everything or lose it all to the almighty forces of the United States and Israeli militaries. If not, the Iranian threat will never be eliminated and only weakened for a time before returning to its domestic demand affairs. Leaving a mess for someone else to clean up. Because Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu have the courage to do what should have been done more than 45 years ago, the regime is staggering and no lifeline should be tossed its way. This is my view. No lifeline and no deal is going to be enforceable. And their ideology does not allow them. It does not even allow them to comply. With any kind of a deal. A deal is just. Sort of a temporary obstacle, which they will clearly overcome when the time comes. The president has no choice. They’re right. But to take a hard line is if the regime were the Nazis in 1945. The allies then required Germany to surrender unconditionally the entirety of its forces on land, sea in the air at this date under Germany were under German control. Anything less would empower the depraved remnant in Tehran to start the cycle again. Then the trials must begin. I really like this justice. The Nazis were held accountable for their crimes. The remaining so-called leaders of the regime must be brought to justice for the terrorism they wrought abroad and the offences including tens of thousands of murders they’ve committed at home. The best they can than any could hope for should be house arrest for life in a country far from the Middle East, which they should prefer over the obliteration they should be told they will receive if they don’t submit. We’re dealing with tyrants, butchers of humans who claimed absolute power justifies their evil acts. Extending mercy endangers hundreds of millions. I like this. I think it’s important. All right. See if anybody cares if anybody’s interested. I’ve got a little bit more on this when we come back. But we’ll be taking your calls as well. We’ll be right back.
Segment 2
I think our negotiators must understand what happens if this hasn’t locked down time even more. They need to be straightforward that a deal may be the worst way to. The claimed end this year grew administrative producer. They really do. They need to be straightforward that a deal may be the worst way to attempt to end this. I just. Sometimes you got to give these things up. You know, this isn’t the Bridge over the River Kwai. And I’m deeply worried about it. Because the regime can be left stronger as it reconstitutes itself. He could wind up being stronger. Marc Thiessen has a good piece in The Washington Post as well. And basically what he’s saying is, look, we’ve come this far. We’ve done so much damage to them, they’re on their back. We need to finish this off and then you recommend some of the things I’ve recommended. Go ahead and arm the people. I’m the people. He says. Trump would be better off destroying Iran’s remaining military capabilities, opening the Strait of Hormuz by force, keeping the US blockade in place to strangle the remnants of the regime economically, and then directing the CIA to launch a covert operation to arm and train the Iranian opposition so it can liberate its country, which I said a thousand times. And I agree with that. I think he’s right on there. So our negotiators must understand what happens if this isn’t locked down tight even more. They need to be straightforward that a deal may be the worst way to attempt to end the war. If the regime survives. I’m writing this to post as I talk to you. Rain, sneezing, taboo. If the regime survives. It will. Become even stronger. It will. Certainly over time. And the threat. To the Middle East and will be. Almost insurmountable. I can just think if they had 10,000 ballistic missiles as an example. You know, this can end in a way they really bring prosperity and peace to the region. The president of the United States is seen as one of the greatest leaders, not just of the United States, but of the world for all time. It could be a debacle. We’ll be right back.
Segment 3
Well people are anxious to get in on this and we’re going to take you right from beginning first into the second. It is right from top to bottom. So let’s go to Jerry. Jersey Shore, Pennsylvania, on the Mark Levine app. How are you? Oh, not too bad. Go right ahead. Yeah, I wanted to step in here because there’s two important points that are being missed. First is Islam. Islam. The religion does not allow for making deals. That is considered a sin. It’s a violation of Islamic law. And it’s extremely important because it does allow one thing and we’ve heard this recently, a 10 to 15 year break in hostilities, which obviously that means they can restock, rearm, move forward. And then at the end of the ten or 15 year period, the war is back on again. And that’s exactly what’s going on. Yeah, that gets us nowhere. Obama did that. It’s an absolute loser. As for nobody ever talking about this, I think I’ve talked about it 500 times on the radio. The whole ideology behind the Islamo Nazi regime to kill and the and that they exist for the purpose of advancing their revolution, their ideology slash politics. So we’ve talked about it at great length here, as a matter of fact. Did you care? I’m sorry. I don’t remember where he was at. But Trump was just asked about some of this and he said, Well, we’ve killed the number one and number twos and the guard is no longer an issue in any was. I’m sorry. I apologize. Kill the number one’s in the number twos. The problem is, as you’re pointing out, this is an ideology. It is a seventh century ideology where Allah demands and commands. The destruction of all non-believers. And all nonbelievers need to be destroyed, eliminated. And. It’s the only way the 12th Imam will appear. He was hiding among us. And when he appears, there’ll be peace and prosperity. Uh, throughout the world. And so. You’re exactly right about that. Which is, yes, we took out the first tier in the second tier, but we know damn well we haven’t taken out the whole thing because we’re negotiating with them. Right. And my understanding and I could be wrong about this, is that one we’re negotiating with is actually as bad as Suleiman. And actually, I don’t know if they’re bad or as bad as they all are. Horrendous animals. And I will just tell you, people keep talking about the more moderate versus the more aggressive. There is no moderate. And that’s exactly what Obama tried with his guy, Ben Rhodes. They were talking about the moderate president back then. There are no moderates or they don’t exist. They eliminate them. They are all revolutionaries. And people need to understand their revolution is external. They are a police state within Iran. They don’t exist. Justice exist as a nation state. This is a a revolution. Ordered by Allah. This is how they believe. And so there is no turning back. If a deal is to be made, it should be made as a way of advancing the cause. In other words, Turkey tells you you can lie, you can cheat, you can deceive, you can do whatever you need to do to advance, to advance the cause. All right, Jerry, thank you for your call. Let’s go to Bill in Dallas, Texas, on Sirius XM satellite. Yes, Bill. Evening, Mark. Thank you for taking my call. First of all, you spoke about a lot of this in your book on power. This is a negative power. This is a negative regimes. And we need this regime needs to be destroyed. I know it’s a very critical and serious decision to put boots on the ground, but if we have to put boots on the ground to get the dust out of there, then we got it. But why go there when we haven’t even armed the people there, of which there are millions who are prepared. They are boots on the ground. They’re prepared to fight for their own liberty. They say we’re going to lose the argument if we keep. And you’re not the first one to say it. So I’m not being critical. Put boots on the ground. Nobody’s putting boots on the ground. We don’t have the will to do it. We don’t have the intention to do it. It’s not going to happen. Okay. So in lieu of that, what do we do? We need to arm the people who are on the ground, who want to be liberated, who’ve demonstrated they will fight if they’re given a chance. So why not arm them like Reagan did in Afghanistan and Nicaragua and Angola and Honduras and other places? This is what I don’t understand. But will those people how are those people, the people of Iran? How are they going to get the dust? And we’re talking about the dust. I’m talking about overthrowing the regime. Okay. Overthrow the regime. Okay. And we’re not even trying. In my humble opinion. We’re just not. The one way to make sure that they’ll never have a nuclear program is to eliminate the regime. The one way to make sure we get what we’re talking about is the enriched uranium. Is to overthrow the regime. The one way to make sure they’re not going to have 8 to 10000 ballistic missiles to fire at Israel, the Arab countries, even Europe at this point, then eventually us is to overthrow the regime. It’s not going away. I don’t know how we’re going to keep it in a box. I really don’t. I don’t know how we’re going to manage it, especially if one of the Democrats becomes president. I feel like I’m being very realistic about the circumstances we face and that are coming in the future, you know? Yes. All right, Bill. God bless you, brother. Greg Callers Good people. Bryan Springfield, Missouri. The great k. G. F go. Hi, Mark. Thank you for taking my call. Being a member of the Missouri National Guard, I am in full support of increasing our presence in the surrounding countries of Iran for the reason being, once we take out the regime, it would give us an opportunity to wipe out its proxy groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas once they lose their funding and supplier out being a member of this. Let me ask you this. What do you make of the fact. That Hezbollah is firing very powerful missiles now in the northern Israel. They’re depopulating northern Israel to a tiny country and now they’re aiming for central Israel. And Netanyahu says, hey, look, we can’t let this go on. We can’t change the boundaries of our country, which is what Hezbollah was trying to do at the command of of Iran, at the command of Iran, and be told that we have one arm tied behind our back, that we can’t do what we need to do about this. So we say, do whatever you need to do. Just don’t go into Beirut. And the Israelis say, well, that’s where their headquarters is, that don’t go into Beirut. I’m getting concerned that Netanyahu and the Israelis would have finished off, Hamas would have finished off, Hezbollah would have finished off the Iranian regime. But we’re holding them back. What do you think of that? All right. I am. And I’m in full support of going after their headquarters. And then 2020, when we were deployed in Iraq, we tangled Hezbollah and by a very strong personal feelings against them, any flag, they wave over them. Hmm. Now, I understand. Well, thank you for your service, Brian. God bless you. Let’s go to Dan’s Sonoma, California, the great care CFO. How are you? Good. We didn’t negotiate with Hitler. We can’t negotiate with these people. I don’t want boots on the ground, but I’m thinking more of the bombing. And like you said, you know, try to get the citizens to uprise. But, yeah, what a mess. My fear is, you know, it’s amazing. These woke, right Isolationists talk about forever wars, but. A forever war is if you don’t defeat the enemy, that’s the problem. And they will be forever. What they are, they’re not going to change. They’re not going to change their stripes. It’s not going to happen. And they’re negotiating with us, the very people they call the big Satan, who they want to eliminate from the face of the earth and undergo sharing with us and good will. And at some point, after they drag us out for a while and we’re fighting over phrases and words and and syllables and all the rest, they’ll sign something. But they have never, ever adhered to anything they have ever signed. This is a whole strategy with these people. It’s a whole strategy with these people. Uh, just a little frustrated and a good mood today, but I’m a little frustrated. All right. Dan, thank you for your excellent call so far. So far. 100%. Callers say we got to end this damn thing and end it the right way or it’s not going to get ended. That’s what I see. We’ll be right back.
Segment 4
Let’s go to Bozeman, Montana, the great KQLB. How are you, Mike? I’m fine, Mark. Greetings from a former Montgomery County, Pennsylvania resident. The thing I. You did not. That’s my home county. But it’s gone to hell. Yeah, I know. I was in the Lower Merion Township. The thing I wanted to mention is how come in these negotiations or in this deal and I’m for no deal, where is the restriction on Iran not to fund Hezbollah, Hamas or any other terrorist organizations? And Mark, where are their Arab neighbors? They’re getting hit also. You don’t hear a peep out of that. Well, most of them apparently are selling out. They want to try and make deals with Iran. And I think they’re doing that because they see we’re trying to make a deal and then they’re going to be left there. And they’re concerned that after the Trump administration is over, they’ll reconstitute themselves and then they got to deal with that. Of course, that’s my concern, too, that they will reconstitute themselves. I don’t care how many satellites we have in the sky or how many spies we have on the ground or Assad has on the ground, we’re not going to catch many of the things they’re doing. It’s just not possible. And it’s it’s going to be a constant looking for a you know, for the hidden eggs or the hidden nukes or whatever. It’s just it’s just. When they’re on their back. Finish him off, for God’s sakes. That’s Mark’s opinion. That’s all. I’m just giving you my thoughts. My. That’s my opinion. Also, Mark, we just have to finish them and take care of this. Right now, we cannot delay. And I also worry that the impact on the midterm elections, you see the Democrats are going to spin it. They’re going to call it Obama 2.0. Fair or not, they’re going to say that we chickened out. They’re going to say it wasn’t worth it. Going to war was a war of choice. You can hear these propaganda already and then you’re on defense and you got to explain it. And and this is what the Iranians are playing. They know that we have, quote unquote, regime change every election. Right. It’s built into our system. While it’s not built into their system any more than it’s built into communist China’s system or Castro’s system or any Marxist Islamist system. So that is a strength internally for the United States, but it is used by our enemies. To try and pressure administration. Some politicians you see Republicans, some are running for the Hill, finding offramp, finding offramp. What are these quislings? All right, Mike. Thanks for your call, brother. Let’s see if we can slip in a few more here. Let’s go to Ray. Grand Prairie, Texas, the great WBAP. How are you, Ray? Thank you, Mr. Levine, for taking my call. And I really need to hear your wise words of wisdom, I guess. Yeah. Several of our warships, missiles, bombers are stationed around the Strait of Hormuz. Does that mean we’re no longer having any military presence and protections around Taiwan? We need their semiconductors, computer chips, electronics, things of the like, nature that are made in Taiwan. And if China chooses to take over Taiwan, we’re we’re busy spending. Our military resources are not going to attack us right now. They don’t have the capacity to do it. He’s busy blowing out his top generals. That doesn’t mean they won’t attack Taiwan in a couple of years. I think they’re going to outwait the Trump presidency. That’s my guess. They have a number of problems, to be perfectly honest with you. They don’t have the generals in place. They don’t have the fuel. Thanks to us from Venezuela and from Iran, they’ve got to have the fuel. But I don’t undersell their capabilities. It’s just that they’re not ready yet. And we ought to be selling Taiwan the equipment that they’ve already bought. They’ve already, you know, ordered. But quietly, about a week or two ago, we we suspended that for now. And I don’t like that either. I’m just saying. All right, my friend. Thank you for your call. Hang in there. I could tell you’re upset. I get it. Let’s go to Chris, Palm Harbor, Florida. Sirius XM satellite. How are you? Fine, sir. I got to tell you something. You were the only idol I have left. Truly. I have every one of your books. I never miss your shows. And I’m not even out from way back. I just want to make a couple of quick points. You’re exactly right. This is what really bothers me. Any deal we make with these people is not going to be the paper it’s written on. And I think the stringing us up right now, you’re correct. I was in Beirut in 1982, and I know what it’s like. I was injured there and it makes me sick when I hear about a deal with these people. I think we have the force over there to do it. I think we ought to end it right now and crushes people once and for all, because I have people who aren’t friends of mine who were killed over there. And that’s what I want to say. I’m sorry. I’m very excited about it. I love Donald Trump. I’m with him forever. And I want us not to make deals, but finish it. That’s all I have to say. I get it. And that’s a lot. And that’s important. And I’m sorry about about the loss. And I want to thank you for whatever you were doing over there. It in terms of the military intelligence. But thank you very, very much for taking my Thank you for taking my call. I’m going to listen to the rest of the calls. All right. You take care. And we’re going to continue calls. You know, the next hour because the board is full and there’s people all over the country who want to participate in this. And I don’t blame you. I don’t blame me at all, because this is. This is a pivotal time. This is a crucial time. And one of the things I’m concerned about, as I mentioned earlier in the program, is no talks whatsoever about the ballistic missiles. And when you shoot missiles that have 2,000 pounds of TNT, 2,000 pounds. Each missile the size of a big yellow school bus, each missile, and you’re going to build an inventory of 8 to 10000 of them. And that’s not on the table. That’s crazy.







