September 10th, 2026

Rough transcription of Hour 1

Segment 1
Hello, America. Mark Levin here. Our number 877-381-3811.  877-381-3811. Well, tomorrow’s a horrible anniversary. 25 years since we were attacked by the Islamists. And lost 3000 people. And I guess. A year ago today, Charlie Kirk was murdered in cold blood. Assassinated. Simply because he was engaging students. First Amendment discussion and so forth. And so we’re going to spend a lot of time on Charlie Kirk today and later on 911, as well as other events and news and so forth. You know, folks, I have to tell you, I have been listening to these audios until this program. That’s very upsetting. Very upsetting because what a wonderful human being he was even putting everything else aside. And oh, people have said they know him and they’re friends and they work for him. Well, my wife and I knew Charlie, too, and we knew Charlie. When he was actually quite young. First time I spoke to him, I think he was 18 or 19 years old. I had him on my FOX show, I think three or four times. We had him on radio a few times. He loved to talk about his new books that came out. He’d love to talk to me about it the way other people do because I read them and I delve into many of the same philosophers that they do. And so he is enormously. Important and greatly missed. And greatly missed. Here he is on November 2019, very young man shutting down a group claiming to be America means to be white. Cut three. Mr. Producer, go. I want to ask the question of you. What does it mean to be an American? Is it an idea or a history, a shared history, or is it a skin color? Well, I mean, you could go back to the original Founding Fathers, the Immigration act of I believe it was. What does it mean to be an American? Is it a skin color or something else? So there’s the current idea of what it means, according to, you know, the Hartzler Immigration Act and, you know, all this folk that you guys view. But if you go back to the original Founding Fathers, they intended this to be a European nation for white men of good stock and character. So can you show me. Let me let me answer the question. Can you show me where in the United States Constitution it says that it wasn’t in the Constitution. It wasn’t in the Constitution because they didn’t believe it. The founders, you, sir, they did not put it in the United States. But let me answer another point. Let me ask you another question. Since you support allow him to have the mic. Let me ask you another question, sir. Others wrote many times the phrase in the United Earth’s Constitution, and they made it illicitly clear. What is the phrase E pluribus Unum mean? What does this phrase E pluribus Unum mean? Why is that relevant? Because it was on every founding document and presidential seal from our founding document, which means out of many, one you serve and your ideology is not conservative. It is right wing identitarian. It has no place in the conservative movement, my friend. Get out of line. Did anyone get a little bit of love in there? I’d say that’s funny, but nobody like him. Nobody like him now, that’s for sure. You know, in about a five year period, give or take. We lost Rush Limbaugh and we lost Charlie. That’s a big deal. Very big deal. And of course, Rush was his favorite broadcaster, but he often told me that I was one of his favorites, too. But it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter. And here he is. It’s go to cut five. Mr.. Producer and go ahead. And what people need to understand is that what you see expressed on these college campuses, the anti-Semitism, the Jew hatred, the anti-Americanism, anti-Western values, it is an outgrowth of the professors. That’s what I loved about that line of questioning. It’s one thing to have bad policies like Harvard has or have bad policies like Columbia. We need to go a level deeper. It’s the faculty themselves that need to be removed from these universities and from these colleges. They are the ones that are instilling the anti-Semitic, anti-Western views on these kids that we are then subsidizing through federal grants, federal aid, medical research, and federal student loans. We need a complete recalibration of how we view higher education in this country. The anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism is not a bug. It is a feature of higher education in this country. People project on their Charlie whatever they want, and they want you to believe he was. Becoming more anti-Israel and anti-Semitic. That is simply not true. That is simply not true. He loved the state of Israel. He fought the anti-Semites. Doesn’t mean he agreed with every single thing the government there was doing. But he agreed with most of it. And he was actually friendly with Netanyahu. So people try to put words in his mouth or they try and play a clip here and there. It’s very sad. Also, the people who abuse his family, abuse his wife, Erica, they are disgusting, they are evil. And you should boycott them. You shouldn’t listen to them. You shouldn’t watch them and so forth. I am concerned about say that it not become. Sort of a home for the woke, right? Isolationists. Charlie was not an isolationist. He was not woke. Right. He certainly was hostile to notions of big government, government interfering in the lives of the individual. I know this. He and I had many discussions about this on the air and off the air. He was much more free market oriented than some of the people who use his name or even some of the people that work at Turning Point USA. So I think TPC needs to be very, very careful with the sorts of individuals who who glom onto it. Many of whom are great, a handful of whom are truly bigoted and have this woke, right. Sort of big government semi socialist agenda that Charlie wouldn’t tolerate for 2 seconds, not for 2 seconds. More. Charlie Kirk. Cut, Forego. No, I’m so nervous. Charlie, I’m so excited to speak to you. Sorry. I like 2020. The 2020 election was rigged. It was stolen. It was a yes. No, It was stolen. Right. And I want to thank you for standing up for that. And that’s why when when when the 2022 elections came around, I told all of my friends and family, I said, there’s only one way to stop this woke Democrat mafia, and that is to boycott these elections because they’re never going to hear us if we don’t really stop from participating in their lie. It’s a farce. You it’s a farce. And why should we participate? You said it yourself. Why should we participate? Okay, let me let me tell you why. So I love the energy. You buttered me up perfectly right. But I got to disagree. It is not rational to stop engaging in the civic process that decides who is in charge. Hold on. Even if it is true. Hold on one second. Even if it is rigged. Okay. Even if it is rigged. Going through a tradition of voting at least opens an opportunity, a chance, a micron that you actually might still be able to have representative government. What you are doing, respectfully, is a guarantee that you’ll never have a voice. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. It’s a very rational man, wasn’t it? Very rational. And let’s see if I have one more. There is one more I will play for you when we come back. It was a discussion he and I had on radio about mostly Ukraine. Ayman, listen to this. Mr. Minister, listen to this. I don’t remember this from the time we did. It was March 24, 2022. And I remember him calling me and telling me I disagree with your position on Ukraine and so forth and so on. I said, Well, let’s talk about it on the air. We’ll be right back.

Segment 2
Unfortunately, this segment isn’t long enough for me to play. My interaction with Charlie, just one of them, but one that we haven’t played since it took place. So I’d like to do that for you. Also, we will be getting into some of the things that have taken place in Dallas, some of the things that have taken place around the world, and some of our tributes for 911 tomorrow night, as Rush has shown us. And so it’s part of the high holidays. It’s the Jewish New Year. It’s one of the most important of the holidays. Second, I think the Yom Kippur. And so my presence. In other words, I’ll be absent. So. But we do have other. Let’s do this. How much time do I have to The second Mr.. Around 3 minutes. I’m looking at these. I don’t think I’ve got enough time to do any of these. But we’re going to do a. But it’s it’s not long enough. No, we’ll we’ll wait till the right time, probably near the end of our one, but definitely into our two. So our friends in New York can also be involved. So we will do that. What I want to play when we come back was from March 24, 2022. I have not heard it. I barely remember it. I just remember that Charlie Kaufman, he was he was very. Little mark. We don’t we don’t agree on this. I hope you understand. You’re not mad at me, are you? That’s the way he was. I said, no, I’m not mad at you. I’m going to be mad at you. You just happened to be wrong. So. And we would get each other like that. And what it was about was Ukraine, as I recall. Now, you listen to this, right, Rich? Was, but it wasn’t all Ukraine, right? It was some other things, too. Oh, that’s when he was banned from Twitter. Yeah, he was. Now, he wouldn’t be banned from Twitter today or because of Elon Musk. Yeah. He called Rachel Levine a man. And why is that so controversial to us? It’s funny, you know, I hate to be honest. Russia and I were best friends. Charlie and I were very good friends. And it it was a it was a wonderful period. A wonderful time, too. It’s like HANNITY and I are best friends now. And eventually when he leaves or I leave or we both leave, I mean, things change. They’ll change. I worry about radio should that happen. So I’m I want to do everything I can to keep it as strong as possible. So when the time does come, it remains as strong as possible. You know, you want the legacy doesn’t have to be personal. It could be institutional. It’s not. Oh, there’s Mark. It’s just that I am a strong and if I’m a strong and terrestrial radio strong, I believe in that. One of the reasons I believe in is because conservative talk radio owns the space. The left has tried it. The left has failed. The left has tried to get the government to to destroy conservative talk radio. There’s things the FCC can do to be more free market oriented in order to further strengthen it. And I’m hoping they do that in the next few weeks. Time will tell. But you know, also the way the tragic way in which Charlie was taken was so. Shocking to the soul. I could never watch that video. I just didn’t want to look at it. And it’s one of those cases where somebody has an impact that is enormous. You know, people of different types of impact, different backgrounds. I’m not comparing Dolly Parton to Charlie Kirk, but Dolly Parton in her field has had the same impact. All right. We’ll be right back. And I will play that for you. We’ll be right back.

Segment 3
All right. We be here. This is Charlie Kirk and me. March 24, 2022. I don’t remember what we said, so it’ll be a surprise to me to cut to go first. I have a wonderful guest, Charlie Kirk. And, you know, the interesting thing about conservatives is. We share the same principles, the same values, but sometimes we disagree on things. Most of the time we don’t. When you look at Clarence Thomas, speaking of Jenny. And the late Justice Antonin Scalia. These were two great patriots. And, you know, they didn’t agree on all the big issues. They would come at them, some of them with the same analysis, but come up with a different conclusion. And that’s the great thing about conservatives, constitutional conservatives. This is how we are. We have our shared principles, but we think independently. Charlie Kirk is very busy running Turning Point USA. He’s got a fantastic radio show in Salem, including on the great ABC. He’s got a top podcast. Charlie, how are you, my friend? I’m doing great, Mark. Thanks so much for having me. Honored to be here. While I’m very sorry you’re suspended from Twitter, my friend, but I wouldn’t have known it because I don’t go on Twitter. So you’re much smarter than I am. You’re a free man. I don’t care what they do. Go ahead. I’m sorry. No, I’m as free as you are. The whole thing so wild. And, you know, we got suspended a couple of days ago for a tweet. We sent about a couple a week before, basically laying out some facts that this Rachel Levine character that is now no relationship pointed. Yeah. And I made sure the pronunciation was completely different. My day. Right. Just just to make sure. And I said I used a factual kind of narrative that Levine’s first name used to be, Richard. And this is now something called dead naming, which you’re not allowed to do on Twitter, which is to even mention that a trans person had a prior name. And so I tweeted that out, and it was met with great support from obviously people that live on team reality. But then Twitter decided to say they gave you a choice. And this is the interesting part, Mark, is that, you know, they said, okay, if you will acknowledge that this tweet was against our rules and you press this red button, delete, you can get access to your Twitter account. And most people would do that without thinking twice. And I told our team, we’re not pushing that button. We are going to do that. I did nothing wrong. We’re not going to play by this Maoist social credit system. And Mark, you warned against this in American Marxism. This is the playbook, really is it’s really unbelievable the extent of censorship. I know people say these are private companies. They’re mostly private companies, but they’re no more private than ExxonMobil, which is regulated through the teeth, and they’re much more powerful. All right. Ukraine, honestly, and don’t be offended by this. I’m so busy, I can’t listen to everybody else. What is your view of this? No, I’m not offended. Oh, Mark. And by the way, I just want to say your commentary has been has been super compelling. I think we’re actually going to agree on this mostly. I mean, I think Putin’s a thug. He’s evil. I’ve said that the entire time. I just don’t have faith in Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin to pull off any form of military intervention. I lost complete faith in our national security team after Afghanistan. So I’m skeptical. And so I’m just trying to contribute to the conversation that if we were to do something for the Ukrainian people who are the true victims here, I don’t know if I trust our national security team to pull it off. I really don’t. And that saddens me to say I wish I had the full confidence that our the head of our armed forces, Mark Milley, was someone that I felt really had the wisdom and the prudence to pull off something necessary and sophisticated. That’s number one. And the second thing, Marc, that I do want to I don’t know if we disagree on this at all, is that when Biden says that we need to bring American values to Ukraine, you said that, you know, bring it through across Europe. I don’t think he’s talking about the American values you and I share. He’s talking about BLM flags on embassies or LGBT flags, you know, outside of, you know, whatever, and or a Planned Parenthood clinic on every corner. And so I don’t even know if we disagree much on that. I’m just my view has been I don’t trust the current regime to pull off whatever might be necessary to be done. I have zero confidence in them whatsoever. That is a very fair point. I guess most of my ire has been focused on people who literally come to Putin’s defense or spew his talking points. This I have a problem with or claim that this has no national security value at all. The vast majority of American people said and I do have the same concerns that you do in that regard, particularly in the Oval Office. My only response to that is these Ukrainians are doing the fighting. Milley’s not the general in charge. And I fear that this thing could leach out to these other countries, which would trigger trigger our NAITO agreements. And then Milley and Austin and and the then the so-called commander in Chief will have a lot more to do with this than they do right now. So I worry about that. I worry about. By the way, YouTube canceled CPAC. Did you know that? I didn’t. But that doesn’t shock me at all. I’m sorry. I’m sorry to interrupt myself, but my wife just sent me this YouTube canceled CPAC. I didn’t even know that. And anyway, let me just finish. So? So. And I. And I and I don’t buy for Kate this from China because they there is an alliance or Iran or so forth and so on. On the other hand, I am not John McCain, I am not Lindsey Graham. I’m not any of these guys that are that are looking to bloody somebody that knows all the time. And I think that is a huge mistake. We only have so many resources. We only have a certain amount of an attention span. And but this to me, is different. And to watch them slaughter these Ukrainians day in and day out and to know what he said in July, that this is really to him just the beginning is what grabs my attention. But I do I absolutely understand your point. I mean, Milly, even now. Said he had a fall in three days. He doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about. No idea what he’s doing. And then Mark. I see. We live. We lead $85 billion of weapons behind in Afghanistan. We give up Bagram Air Base. And, you know, I’m supposed to believe that we can do successful weapon transfers? I want to believe that I do. I just. We have those crumbs, which is good. And I believe that. And I’ve seen that. I just I’m on my I’m on pins and needles with this current group of CRT defending woke generals and from Biden on down, I do not think we have our best. And that’s not an indictment of our military and our military’s the best on the planet ever. It’s it’s it’s the guys that made those decisions that humiliated us in Afghanistan. While our troops are not involved in that way right now, they’re not being sent into Ukraine, which I would oppose. Our pilots are not flying over Ukraine, which I would oppose. This is sort this sort of thing the Reagan would do, providing armaments as as many and as and as cutting edge as possible to defeat the Russians in in the Ukraine. And and it’s pretty obvious to me that Biden isn’t taking the lead. The Poles are taking the lead. The Eastern Europeans are taking the lead. And these are a lot of governments that are that are very close to us. They’re considered, quote unquote, right wing, the Hungarians, the Romanians. And they’re trying to arm up the Ukrainians, too, because my attitude is this is where Putin wanted to fight and this is where we fight. We cannot let it bleed into NATO’s. We cannot let it bleed into a major world war with all these other countries involved. And we can talk about this more another day. Anyway, Charlie, I want to thank you for everything you do, my friend. You’re a great patriot. Thank you. God bless you, Mark. Thanks so much. Talk to you soon. All right. You too. Take care. It was it wasn’t very long, but I’m sure we did speak other times about other things. It’s just the nature of the thing. And just listen to how. Rational. The discussion was Mr. Produce, not warmonger. You know, that’s sort of one when a rhino, which is all you get on the Internet. That’s all you get. I think one of the reasons I was attracted to Charlie when he was still a young guy now he was murdered when he was 31, 32. But I’m talking about when he was 18, 19, that sort of thing. Is his incredible smarts in his articulation, and he was more than happy to engage and have a rational discussion and so forth and so on, which most people are not today. Which is part of the problem to me. A year ago today, we lost a great man. Great. And the tributes he’s received are well-deserved. And when somebody like that is taken at such a young age, you can only wonder, my God. 56 years of Charlie Kirkwood. What a difference I could have made. And then you think about his wife and his two little kids and so forth. Terrible. Terrible. And then you had people celebrating it. Just horrendous. We’re going to take a break now. I’ll be right back.

Segment 4
We’ll come back next hour. I do want to spend time on 9/11 and the lessons that have been learned or have not been learned as a consequence of that attack. I read their piece to you yesterday from Martha. I believe her last name was or is. A Somalian American, formerly Muslim, now Christian, wrote a long piece in tablet saying that she doesn’t believe we did learn the lesson. I can tell you who didn’t. George H. George W Bush didn’t. And others who today were at a mosque are talking in front of a mosque or talking about a mosque and talking about the religion of peace. It’s not a religion of peace. I’m sorry. It’s just not wish it were. It’s not. In fact, it’s the only religion I know that. Really. Promote such militarization terrorism. Against other faiths, against other peoples and so forth. If you know another one, let me know. But I don’t believe there is any other one. And so this is a huge problem in our country is the door’s been wide open as people come in. They still keep coming in. And she warned us, we have less than ten years. We don’t even have ten years. And she’s right. You see what’s happened in Europe and I mean every part of Europe except maybe Hungary, Hungary, rather, and maybe one or two other countries, but mostly Europe is is declining is. Basically devoured. And so what happens is these these left wing parties. The Labor Party, the Liberal Party, the this party, the that party in now kowtow to the Islamist. And of course, the truly bizarre irony is they’re out there pushing LGBTQ. You know, trans surgeries and so forth and so on. Well, at the same time, in their big tent. They have Islamists that apply Sharia law and do not tolerate any of that. In the abuse of women, the abuse of little girls in Britain. It is a massive scandal and the left wing governments covered it up for a long time. It’s just terrible. And again, it’s it’s one, one group that’s doing this. In my contention is that, you know, the Marxists opened the door to this. I call them American Marxists, and that’s what they are. They opened the door to this. And they they ushered this into the country. And if time ever does, God forbid. Turns out that these two entities Marxism and Islamism. Destroy us. Islamism will also destroy the Marxist. That’s the way it works. That’s the way it’s worked in the past. There’s a documentary that was put out by. What is that gentleman’s name? Freeman. Nathan Freeman, perhaps. Mr. Producer. I just posted it. If you can look real fast, I’ll put his name out there. But very brave young man. And he goes to the largest mosque in New York City. Nate Freeman, I apologize. And. What he sees her is just stunning. What he sees from the parking police is unbelievable. How they want to get. All these cabs that are there that are being driven obviously by. By Muslims in that community. But they’re targeting everybody else. It’s just a really incredible. And so I posted that. You can check that out on my X and every other social media I have. All right. Very important. Our next. I’ll be right back.